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    Posted: June-19-2012 at 3:42pm
Our house has a natural gas stub or whatever you call the little nub of pipe sticking out of the wall.
We want to connect it to our grill and have ordered the conversion kit. Do we need a plumber?
We don't want the cheesy looking hose.
Looking forward to stop schlepping propane cans to home depot....
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It only takes 10 minutes.
Turn off gas
Remove plug
Install shut off valve and nipple
Turn on gas
Relight pilot for water heater.

It does not matter if you like the cheesy hose or not you will have to install it. The hose allows the grill to be movable, it is a safety item, and it you were to plumb the grill with pipe it would be permanent and most likely need a permit. 


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Originally posted by 1hagop 1hagop wrote:

It only takes 10 minutes.
Turn off gas
Remove plug
Install shut off valve and nipple
Turn on gas
Relight pilot for water heater.

It does not matter if you like the cheesy hose or not you will have to install it. The hose allows the grill to be movable, it is a safety item, and it you were to plumb the grill with pipe it would be permanent and most likely need a permit. 


Brian covered this perfectly
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I installed my own: I added the valve, had to adapt it down, then a M-M connector to the quick-release connector that came with the BBQ conversion kit.



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It depends on your grill. Just by removing the jets in mine it runs Nat gas. Reinserting the jets and its back to propane. If you are going to have a buried line then make sure its at least 3 feet deep and that  you leak test every connection spot that will be buried. You can do this with dish soap while the gas is flowing. If there is a leak it'll bubble.

If you are just simply putting it with an extension hose like Jeff did, it'll be a lot easier and less time consuming but won't look at clean when its done.
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Our landscaper put in a U shaped copper pipe and ran it under our pavers but I doubt it's 3 ft deep based on all the other mistakes he made.
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Originally posted by atmouloua atmouloua wrote:

Our landscaper put in a U shaped copper pipe and ran it under our pavers but I doubt it's 3 ft deep based on all the other mistakes he made.

Someone help out here. I thought copper was not used in California because we follow the UPC. I know it is okay to use in other states but I thought here it was a no no!!!

If the pipe is not at least 18" under the ground it is illegal, and obviously no permits issued!!! Not good.....
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Gas pipes should be iron, not copper.
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Correct - copper is not allowed for natural gas in CA....unfortunately especially in situations i.e. direct burial where rust can occur.
Iron or the newer yellow flex piping is ok.
If you're burrying the iron then it should be the coated iron (green coating on it).
When our line went in, we put a gravel base under it and surrounded it in sand. This in combination with the coated pipe will prevent any chance of rust or water pooling around the line.
 
Another way to test for leaks is to pressurize the line with an air compressor and then use the dish soap trick...
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Many grills can't us NG.
My grill has an upgrade kit, but not all grills do.
It's certainly not as simple as just hooking up the gas line to the old grill.

I'm not 100% certain, but it's my understanding that if you modify the gas plumbing at all, a permit is required.  That includes removing the pipe cover and putting on a valve.
That's because there are proper valves and pipe work for gas.
Not everybody at Home Depot is up on the proper code, and from the post above a lot of landscapers do this sort of work, but don't necessarily know the code either.
It might be worth a call to the county to make sure.

Given you messing with gas and an exposed flame, I'd want to make sure it's done properly.

Good luck.



Edited by Jim - June-20-2012 at 9:51am
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Me too, thanks! Luckily for the general public our idiot landscape contractor is now selling Omaha Steaks door to door. We've spent $1000 so far fixing his mistakes.
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Can anyone recommend a professional who is licensed and can connect my grill to my natural gas outlet?
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